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Episode 29

55mins



















In this riveting episode of RealPharma, hosts Na-Ri Oh and Ian Wendt sit down with the renowned ethnopharmacologist, Dennis McKenna, to explore the profound intersection of nature, science, and healing. From Dennis’s storied journey into the world of plant medicines to the evolving landscape of psychedelic therapies, this conversation is as thought-provoking as it is inspiring.

Key Topics Discussed:

🌿 Dennis’s Journey: How an early fascination with psychedelics and traditional practices shaped his career in ethnopharmacology.

🌌 Modern Psychedelic Science: The exciting potential of compounds like Ibogaine and psilocybin for treating addiction, PTSD, and neurodegenerative disorders.

🌍 Ethical Dimensions: The importance of honoring indigenous knowledge and the call for reciprocity in drug development.

🔬 Challenges in Biopharma: Why current regulatory frameworks struggle with psychedelics and how innovation can bridge the gap.

🎤 McKenna Academy's Mission: Insights into biodiversity preservation, education, and the Academy’s role in advancing plant medicine research.

Notable Moments:

  • Dennis recounts the inspiration behind his 50-year journey in ethnopharmacology.

  • A deep dive into the “set and setting” principle and its importance for both traditional and modern psychedelic practices.

  • Discussion on how biopharma can balance commercialization with ethical responsibilities toward indigenous communities.

  • Insights into the upcoming COCA Summit and its aim to shift perceptions and regulations around this misunderstood plant.


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